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Is the earth approximately 6000 years old? (as opposed to 4.5 billion)

Background

There are two contradictory accounts of the age of earth. One is the scientific account, which claims that the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old. The other is a biblical account, which claims that the earth is approximately 6000 years old. The scientific position is that there is overwhelming evidence for their view, while Christian Science points to contradictions and anomalies in that position.

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Experts In Science


Russell Humphreys    Creationist Physicist
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Nearly a dozen natural phenomena which conflict with the evolutionary idea that the universe is billions of years old...
01 Jun 1991    Source

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Is radioactive dating accurate?
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Experts In Christianity


Albert Mohler    President, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
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Given the human tendency toward inconsistency, there are people who will say they hold both positions. But you cannot coherently affirm the Christian-truth claim and the dominant model of evolutionary theory at the same time. Personally, I am a young-Earth creationist. I believe the Bible is adequately clear about how God created the world, and that its most natural reading points to a six-day creation that included not just the animal and plant species but the earth itself.
07 Aug 2005    Source

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Should the Bible be interpreted literally?
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Experts In Science


Kenneth Miller    Biology Professor, Christian
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Is there any possibility within the limits of science as we know it, that this earth is between 6000 and 10000 years old? The answer is no, not unless somebody has fooled with the laws of chemistry and physics. ... To accept that the geological evidence could tell us that the earth is as old as it is and yet that the Earth was actually created 6000 years ago requires that [the] creator [is] a charlatan, and I don't reject that on scientific grounds, I reject that on theological grounds.
18 Aug 2008    Source


Experts In Christianity


Merle Hertzler    Born Again Atheist
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Scientists tell us it would have taken billions of years for the light to have made that journey from the distant stars. If the light did indeed come from those stars, then the light left those stars billions of years ago. And if the light was traveling for billions of years, than the stars must be very old, and the universe is very old.
01 Jan 2006    Source


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Wikipedia    World's Largest Encyclopedia
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Modern geologists and geophysicists consider the age of the Earth to be around 4.54 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%). This age has been determined by radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples.
27 Apr 2009    Source



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Packbat gave their takeonit 3 days ago
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The only way anyone would suggest the Earth is less than a billion years old is by hypothesizing without actual evidence. Sure, a few thousand years sounds plausible if you don't anything about science, but every field of endeavor which looks back farther than living memory - including plain-old history - suggests clearly that the Earth is older.


Benja replied with their takeonit 3 days ago
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Actually, Russell Humphreys has a PhD in physics, yet still believes in a young earth. It's a gem of an example of motivated cognition and mental compartmentalization.


Packbat replied with their takeonit 2 days ago
General Comment
When he is hypothesizing that the earth is about 6000 years old, he's not doing so based on the actual evidence available in his field - that's what I mean.




JGWeissman gave their takeonit on 06 Mar 2010
Disagree
There is no reason to even be considering this hypothesis. No credible evidence has suggested it.


Len Robertson gave their takeonit on 28 Sep 2008
Neutral
The discovery of planets orbiting other stars ends the debate with neither the creationists nor the evolutionists winning. Granted, the creationists will continue to claim that there is no written proof that the other planets are more than 5000 years old.

Unfortunately, we have recently learned that nearly all stars have planets, they can be seen and photographed, and life is everywhere. Detection of other civilizations is only a decade or two away. Imagine how surprised those civilizations will be when they are told their histories end 5000 years in the past, regardless of their own written evidence to the contrary.

As for evolutionists, we didn't come from the muck. We weren't a lucky accident resulting from lightning striking amino acids. A more likely possibility is that poly extremophiles rained down upon this planet from the moment it formed and eventually some of them found a foothold and prospered.

Where did we ultimately come from? Maybe, we came from PSR B1620-26 b, the planet 13 billion years old that has been nicknamed Methuselah. Maybe we came from an even older planet? Maybe we came from an earlier universe? Whatever the answer, it won't be found here on Earth.

Just another reason for Humanity to get its fat ass of this tired old rock.

Ciao for now,

Len

P.S. I’m inclined to think the Intelligent Design theory has credence because I have to wonder what environment could naturally produce poly extremophiles as wild as Deinococcus Radiodurans, called by NASA Conan the Bacterium? There must have been an intelligent hand involved in the process.


Benja gave their takeonit on 09 Sep 2008
Editorial Comment
Additional questions linked via implications are required here for the various creationist arguments to be separated out. E.g.:

Speed of light changing over time argument
Geological arguments
Radioactive dating arguments

Many of the arguments presented by Dr. Russell Humprheys 11 appear to be "strawman arguments".