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Is scientific consensus relevant?

We often trust a scientific consensus, but is this rational? Contrarians often maintain consensus is irrelevant - and that the facts should speak for themselves. However, an assessment of the facts is not always as straightforward as the rhetorically inclined advocates on either side often insinuate. In such cases, is it rational to trust the consensus, or is there always a better way to rapidly assess the truth - short of becoming an expert one's self?

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Experts In Philosophy


Paul Thagard    Philosophy Professor
Mostly Agree
It is legitimate to trust scientific consensus when it is based (as it often is) on: Good evidence acquired by careful observations and experiments performed by researchers whose motivations are scientific rather than financial or ideological; Solid theories based on explanations of the evidence, taking into account opposing theories; AND Publications in high quality, peer-reviewed, scientific journals.
25 Mar 2010    Source


Experts In Economics


Robin Hanson    Economics Professor
Mostly Agree
On average, contrarian views are less accurate than standard views. Honest contrarians should admit this, that neutral outsiders should assign most contrarian views a lower probability than standard views, though perhaps a high enough probability to warrant further investigation. Honest contrarians who expect reasonable outsiders to give their contrarian view more than normal credence should point to strong outside indicators that correlate enough with contrarians tending more to be right.
15 Nov 2009    Source


Experts In Media


Chris Mooney    Journalist, Author
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That doesn’t mean that scientific consensus is right in every instance. There are famous examples, in fact, of when it was proved wrong: Galileo comes to mind, as does a lowly patent clerk named Einstein. In the vast majority of modern cases, however, scientific consensus can be expected to hold up under scrutiny precisely because it was reached through a lengthy and rigorous process of professional skepticism and criticism.
01 Jun 2004    Source


Experts In Politics


Al Gore    Environmentalist, Former U.S. Vice President
Agree
There are no longer any serious scientists producing peer reviewed scientific journal articles that [deny anthropogenic global warming]. The real scientific debate is over. The people who say global warming isn't real, they must get together on Saturday nights and party with the ones who think the moon landing was staged on a movie lot in Arizona.
19 Jun 2006    Source


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Experts In Philosophy


Ronald Bailey    Science Editor, Reason Magazine
Mostly Disagree
One should always keep in mind that a scientific consensus crucially determines and limits the questions researchers ask. And one should always worry about to what degree supporters of any given scientific consensus risk succumbing to confirmation bias. In any case, the credibility of scientific research is not ultimately determined by how many researchers agree with it or how often it is cited by like-minded colleagues, but whether or not it conforms to reality.
29 Jun 2010    Source


Experts In Science


Michael Crichton    Science Fiction Author
Disagree
...the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What are relevant are reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science.
17 Jan 2003    Source


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Robert Higgs    Economist
Disagree
Reference to “peer-reviewed research” and to an alleged “scientific consensus” are regarded as veritable knock-out blows by many commentators. Yet many of those who make such references appear to me to be more or less ignorant of how science as a form of knowledge-seeking and scientists as individual professionals operate, especially nowadays, when national governments ... play such an overwhelming role in financing scientific research and hence in determining which scientists rise to the top...
07 May 2007    Source



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0 Points      bayramzadeh      29 Sep 2010      Stance on Question: Agree
There's a reason why it has gotten the scientific consensus. When that is said, it would only be arrogant of me to assume that I know more about a certain subject, than a collection of people who have devoted their life to only explore and explain that exact subject. There's a reason why we trust people if they speak of something as painful, that is because by sharing knowledge, we can easier and faster become well suited for this life, without having to go through every piece of observation, experience and experiment to actually confirm everything.


0 Points      Benja      29 Sep 2010      General Comment
By 'it' I assume you're refering to Anthrogenic Global Warming, but this question applies generally to any scientific consensus. Also, while I somewhat agree with what you say, there are times when a consensus is wrong, and your analysis doesn't provide a way to know when to trust vs. not trust a consensus, or why a scientific consensus is special. For example, homoepaths have devoted their life to only explore and explain that exact subject, but I reject their beliefs.



0 Points      Benja      14 Jul 2010      Stance on Question: Mostly Agree
In the case a hypothesis is supported by clear-cut tests, there is no need for consensus. Consensus is however useful when a plethora of tests are required to test the hypothesis, and domain expertise is required to understand and synthesize those tests to attain the likelihood of that hypothesis.

Hypotheses vary in how easy they are to test. The General Theory of Relativity, while a difficult theory to understand, has hypotheses with clear-cut tests that a layperson can easily grasp. Will a clock on a plane have lost a little time on its trip? Will the position of a planet be correctly predicted? If the theory predicts the outcome of these tests, a layperson has a straightforward reason to believe in that theory, even if they have little grasp of the complexity of the theory itself. In comparison, AGW is much harder to test. The central theory, of the greenhouse effect, is actually remarkably simple, as is the hypothesis it suggests, that CO2 warms the planet. But testing that hypothesis in the real world requires synthesizing data from a plethora of tests, and you can't really do this without being pretty familiar with climate science.

I believe the complexity of testing the AGW hypothesis is what ultimately troubles earnest climate skeptics. If they can't understand the tests, how can they feel comfortable signing off on the hypothesis? The strategy of only believing in hypotheses that have been demonstrated with simple tests is not actually a bad rule of thumb - in fact - I wish more people used it! It will correctly lead you to believe in General Relativity and the Theory of Evolution, while rejecting homeopathy and astrology. The problem is that it's an overly-aggressive "truth-filtering algorithm". It will cause people to reject theories that they would otherwise accept if they could understand the science needed to understand the tests. It's like using a skeptical axe rather than a skeptical scalpel.

In the case one doesn't personally understand the tests for a hypothesis, the rational thing to do is to outsource the assessment of that hypotheses to the experts. If an expert consensus exists, our task is easier - they're probably right, and the dissent is most likely from deluded or deliberate noise-makers with claims of conspiracies and ignored evidence. However, we shouldn't dismiss such claims - contrarians are occasionally right. A fast screening process you can use on a contrarian without spending your precious time delving into their arguments is to see if they've made radical claims elsewhere. For example, Roy Spencer, a climate skeptic, is also an evolution skeptic, claiming that Intelligent Design is "no more religious, and no less scientific, than evolutionism". The more rigorous approach however, is to examine specific claims challenging the consensus view for consistency.

Contrarians are usually "contrary for the sake of being contrary". Rather than disagreeing on a few specific points, they tend to disagree with everything they can about the consensus view. This inevitably leads to inconsistent claims. If the consensus view claims A and B, the contrarian will often claim NOT A and NOT B. But is it consistent to believe both NOT A AND NOT B? For example, climatologists believe A: That we know the cause the cause of warming, and B: That the cause is humans. Skeptics often believe both NOT A: That we don't know the cause of warming, and NOT B: That the cause is very likely natural. But NOT A AND NOT B are inconsistent!

In the absence of consistent contrarians, the rational thing to do is to trust the consensus. While a broad consensus has the negative effect of shunning dissent, it also has the positive effect of raising the number of people eyeballing the science, and raising the potential glory for the eagle eyed maverick. If a consistent alternative to the consensus view can be made, it will readily surface.